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Argue With Us! Your Second Amendment Rights

Point: The Right to Bear Arms—Within Reason

by Bailey O’Malia

In the wake of the Sandy Hook tragedy Americans and politicians have spent time reflecting on gun control.

We often hear that our founding fathers wrote our right to bear arms into the Constitution as a way to protect ourselves from harm; that they wanted us to have that right, even today.

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But that’s not something I’m so sure about.

When the founding fathers wrote our constitution their idea of a weapon was a musket. Not an automatic weapon. The gun they had in mind would be used for safety or for hunting.

With this in mind I wonder, what the fathers of our nation would have said about civilians owning military-grade weapons that can shoot a hundred rounds in a minute?

Surely there is no need for a civilian to hold that kind of power in his hand. In fact, why should anyone have that much power over another human being? Do we really trust each other’s judgment?

I’ve been thinking about this for days and I can’t come up with one good reason that a person would need anything more than a handgun or rifle for “safety.”

So when the discussion of changing the gun laws is brought up I think, what a perfectly simple solution; ban all automatic weapons. This appeases the Democrats because they will have made steps towards gun reform, and the Republicans because they won’t be fully losing their right to bear arms. If you consider shooting an automatic weapon a fun hobby, they could still be available to rent at a gun range.

But this is a compromise. A concept politicians and Americans are unfamiliar with these days.

If you’re pro-guns at this point you’re probably saying “but it’s my right, and they’re taking away all of our rights.”

But it’s also your right to feel safe in this country. And despite the theorists who say “arm every person in the country, that’ll scare ‘em!” The lunatics that are shooting up movie theaters and schools don’t seem to place much value on their life or the lives of others.

So before you start spouting your founding fathers crap, take a second to think about the core principle that this country was supposedly built on: freedom. And I don’t know about you, but I don’t feel very “free” knowing that my neighbor could be housing an AK-47 in his garage.

 

CounterPoint: The Reason for the Right to Bear Arms

by Tim Young

As intelligent as I think Bailey is, she’s dead wrong here.  I do feel safer knowing that my neighbor could be housing an AK-47 in his garage.  Why?  Because I know most of my neighbors are honest, hardworking people who aren’t nutcases looking to shoot up schoolchildren.

See, what happens when these terrible tragedies occur is the media blows things out of proportion to spread their leftist views… and as much as I generally don’t yell and point fingers about how biased they are… this time, they really have showed their hand.  Somewhere in the middle of all the hype about how access to guns was the issue here, we forget what the Second Amendment was really about.

When the founding fathers wrote the Constitution and Bill of Rights, they wanted to ensure that all people were equal… equal with each other and equal with the government.  Yes, when this was all written, people only had muskets… but do you know who else only had muskets?  The government.

We had just finished overthrowing a tyrannical government in order to become a free nation, and the founders, who literally helped fight in that war, wanted the American people to have equal footing with whatever government took over, in order to prevent tyranny if necessary once again.  These guys were smart, they weren’t thinking inside the box of their time.  They were completely aware that technology would change, but they wanted Americans to be able to stand up for themselves.  How does one do that?  By having the same level of weaponry as the government!

The Constitution was written with revolution in mind, not the peace that we have internally had for about 150 years now.  I say 150 years, because we fought ourselves with our armed militias in The Civil War… we have been lucky to have had internal peace since then…  But you can’t closed-mindedly say that the Second Amendment was for limited weapons.  It just wasn’t.  It was meant to keep people on the same level as the government, so that they could fight for their rights if necessary.

And sure, if my neighbors had rocket launchers, I think I’d be scared just because they could blow up my house… But if original founders were still around, I think they’d be alright with it.

 

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253 comments

  1. Go here to find your local Militia http://wramsite.com/

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  2. I hope and encourage my neighbors to be armed. In fact I gifted one of them a revolver. He is 93 years old and lives alone. This is how neighbors should treat one another. We should cover each other’s backs.

    I would like to think that when the day comes that the many years leftist mismanagement coalesces into roaming gangs of hungry criminals looking to prey on the timid and the weak, that they will not find a soft target near me or my neighbors.

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  3. It is clear Baily has never read any supporting documents of those who wrote the 2nd amendment, that she has never read the Supreme Court decisions upholding and support the 2nd amendment, and that she does not comprehend what ‘RIGHTS’ are intended to be…

    The “right” of the people… …”shall not be infringed” is very clear in its intent and meaning. While the 2nd amendment’s purpose is to prevent ANY government from limiting ANY aspect of the population, the assumption many have that they were referring to only ‘personal protection’ is WRONG. It’s PRIMARY purpose is to prevent ANY government from limiting the RIGHTS of the PEOPLE to protect themselves FROM the GOVERNMENT. And, to do so by force of arms if necessary! It is also clear, by any reasonable person, that those who wrote the 2nd amendment also recognized that anarchy follows without rules… That is why they inserted the phrase “A well regulated militia”… By doing so, they put forth a GUIDE for us to follow, that every freedom loving PERSON should be excercising (and protecting) their RIGHTS by being involved in the protection of their country and ALL other RIGHTS.

    What has gone wrong is that the PEOPLE haven’t listened, have forgotten the lessons of our fathers and forefathers, and generally DONT GET IT – that every PERSON has a responsibility to protect THEIR RIGHTS and everyone else RIGHTS. There are far to many SELFISH and irrisponsible people that fail the test of being a CITIZEN of the U.S.

    If every PERSON was taught, trained, and educated in being a CITIZEN and the PEOPLE were held accountable (vs. the current norm of the selfish blame game) for their actions – events like CO, PA, etc. would not happen nearly as often. MEDIA is actually encouraging these events by sensationalizing them – the PSYCHOlogy of these disturbed people gives them a guaranteed outlet for their distress! STOP IT! Media – YOUR are largely to blame! STOP dramatizing these events! Instead – Sensationalize the old style PUBLIC HANGINGS of the Old West – have your reporters and cameras at the executions of these criminals. SHOW that harsh crimes are punished even more harshly! Demonstrate that taking another’s life means ENDING YOURS! See how many mentally disturbed attention seekers crawl out of the woodwork in THAT environment.

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  4. Ah, you miserable creatures! You who think that you are so great! You who judge humanity to be so small! You who wish to reform everything! Why don’t you reform yourselves? That task would be sufficient enough.”
    ? Frédéric Bastiat

    98 percent of the criminals that are in prison Identifies themselves as liberals maybe we would be better off outlawing liberalism.

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  5. “If the natural tendencies of mankind are so bad that it is not safe to permit people to be free, how is it that the tendencies of these organizers are always good? Do not the legislators and their appointed agents also belong to the human race? Or do they believe that they themselves are made of a finer clay than the rest of mankind?”
    ? Frédéric Bastiat, The Law

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  6. Mega-kudos to your post…I wholeheartedly agree with every word you wrote.

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  7. I’m not convinced that the young perpetrators of the mass killings are not victims or should I say “deployments” of psych-ops to achieve the agenda of disarming civilians. After the murders en mass, the perps all seem to kill themselves. There’s no way to get in their heads to find out the true motive.

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  8. Well put Paul, Oh… Oh, sorry. That was our faonding father’s crap. You were just repeating it… ;-)

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  9. I’m not convinced that all the young mass murderers who all seem to kill themselves after their crimes are not victims of psych-ops agendas to disarm civilians by fostering a demand for gun control. No one can get into their heads afterwards, that’s for sure. Our wonderful governments would never do anything so heinous? Sound crazy? It’s no crazier than the shooting, napalming and bombing of people all over the planet by most of our wonderful governments. I.e. USSR-Afghanistan, Stalin’s murder of millions, Imprisonment and/or execution of thousands of dissidents behind the Iron Curtain and countless other atrocities of inhumanity too numerous to list. USA-Vietnam, Bosnia, Iraq, Afghanistan, Korea. CHINA-murder of millions of internal dissidents, thousands of Japanese, Cambodians and others, murder of 10,000 students in Tianamen Square. The list goes on and on.

    Who the hell is kidding who? I damn well want a gun when some govt. guy shows up on my doorstep with a gun and tells me that I’m off to a relocation center…like it or not. If I’m wrong than no harm done, I’m a peace loving guy who bears malice to no person. I wish neither to rule nor be ruled. Gun control where the govt. has guns but the people don’t is a non sequitur in a free society. The nice people don’t kill wantonly. The crazies can kill dozens with a glass gallon jar full of gas and powdered laundry detergent. Shall we ban gasoline, glass jars or matches? The whole argument is B.S. They want you disarmed without any control, while they have all the control. If we allow it we might as well as kiss it all good-bye because the inevitable result will place that govt. guy, issuing orders, eventually on your doorstep.

    By the way, to all you who argue about the necessity for gun control, the 2nd amendment was created solely to allow the citizen to protect himself from a tyrannical govt…nothing else. It had nothing to do with hunting or any other B.S. Try reading the writings of the Founders in conjunction with the Constitution if you are deluded and think otherwise. Of course the idiots produced by the education system of today, if they can read and have even a rudimentary power to think, will never be encouraged to read the Founders or the Constitution.

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  10. I scrolled down once I read about the Militia may be the way to go! I have to say this and am at Peace with God to do so!

    The MAIN issue with the World in past and present is the Bankers, 100%! The number of ammo is 1.4 Billion+ by DHS alone!

    https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=gates+depopulation&oq=Gates+De&gs_l=youtube.1.2.0l4.41684.54822.0.61448.14.11.3.0.0.0.573.1099.10j5-1.11.0…0.0…1ac.1.lMinuAqXq04

    Go to infowars.com, get informed and spread the word! They show proof of everything…

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  11. Didn’t read through all the comments and just have one. Tim is right, we all need 50 nuclear bombs in our basement so we have the same military capibility as the government……

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  12. I was searching through all these post looking for one person who was in favor of gun control and got tied of looking- everyone one agrees don’t take away our guns. Oh currently I don’t own one put all this talk of taking them away in the media makes me want to go out a buy one. I like my knife its the same as Navy Seals use and I’m advanced in the martial arts so a gun is just a extra for me. And just to set the record straight I’m not right or left I’m A-political but live by a high code of honor.

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  14. that was a reply to paul’s link.

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