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Point: The Right to Bear Arms—Within Reason

by Bailey O’Malia

In the wake of the Sandy Hook tragedy Americans and politicians have spent time reflecting on gun control.

We often hear that our founding fathers wrote our right to bear arms into the Constitution as a way to protect ourselves from harm; that they wanted us to have that right, even today.

But that’s not something I’m so sure about.

When the founding fathers wrote our constitution their idea of a weapon was a musket. Not an automatic weapon. The gun they had in mind would be used for safety or for hunting.

With this in mind I wonder, what the fathers of our nation would have said about civilians owning military-grade weapons that can shoot a hundred rounds in a minute?

Surely there is no need for a civilian to hold that kind of power in his hand. In fact, why should anyone have that much power over another human being? Do we really trust each other’s judgment?

I’ve been thinking about this for days and I can’t come up with one good reason that a person would need anything more than a handgun or rifle for “safety.”

So when the discussion of changing the gun laws is brought up I think, what a perfectly simple solution; ban all automatic weapons. This appeases the Democrats because they will have made steps towards gun reform, and the Republicans because they won’t be fully losing their right to bear arms. If you consider shooting an automatic weapon a fun hobby, they could still be available to rent at a gun range.

But this is a compromise. A concept politicians and Americans are unfamiliar with these days.

If you’re pro-guns at this point you’re probably saying “but it’s my right, and they’re taking away all of our rights.”

But it’s also your right to feel safe in this country. And despite the theorists who say “arm every person in the country, that’ll scare ‘em!” The lunatics that are shooting up movie theaters and schools don’t seem to place much value on their life or the lives of others.

So before you start spouting your founding fathers crap, take a second to think about the core principle that this country was supposedly built on: freedom. And I don’t know about you, but I don’t feel very “free” knowing that my neighbor could be housing an AK-47 in his garage.

 

CounterPoint: The Reason for the Right to Bear Arms

by Tim Young

As intelligent as I think Bailey is, she’s dead wrong here.  I do feel safer knowing that my neighbor could be housing an AK-47 in his garage.  Why?  Because I know most of my neighbors are honest, hardworking people who aren’t nutcases looking to shoot up schoolchildren.

See, what happens when these terrible tragedies occur is the media blows things out of proportion to spread their leftist views… and as much as I generally don’t yell and point fingers about how biased they are… this time, they really have showed their hand.  Somewhere in the middle of all the hype about how access to guns was the issue here, we forget what the Second Amendment was really about.

When the founding fathers wrote the Constitution and Bill of Rights, they wanted to ensure that all people were equal… equal with each other and equal with the government.  Yes, when this was all written, people only had muskets… but do you know who else only had muskets?  The government.

We had just finished overthrowing a tyrannical government in order to become a free nation, and the founders, who literally helped fight in that war, wanted the American people to have equal footing with whatever government took over, in order to prevent tyranny if necessary once again.  These guys were smart, they weren’t thinking inside the box of their time.  They were completely aware that technology would change, but they wanted Americans to be able to stand up for themselves.  How does one do that?  By having the same level of weaponry as the government!

The Constitution was written with revolution in mind, not the peace that we have internally had for about 150 years now.  I say 150 years, because we fought ourselves with our armed militias in The Civil War… we have been lucky to have had internal peace since then…  But you can’t closed-mindedly say that the Second Amendment was for limited weapons.  It just wasn’t.  It was meant to keep people on the same level as the government, so that they could fight for their rights if necessary.

And sure, if my neighbors had rocket launchers, I think I’d be scared just because they could blow up my house… But if original founders were still around, I think they’d be alright with it.

 

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256 comments

  1. From 93 to 2003 we had assault weapons ban on and we had Columbine shooting all done with assault rifles and the also had the beltway sniper during the ban. If outlawing assault weapons will get them off the streets then maybe we should outlaw Crack cocaine and Meth? The point is that the gun free zones is the problem. A gun free zone is only gun free until some nut realizes that it is a easy target and that he will not have much resistance.So to enforce a gun free zone you need guns which then becomes a not so gun free zone. The whole idea of a gun free zone is dumb always has been.

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  2. In 1929, the Soviet Union established gun control. >From 1929 to 1953, about 20 million dissidents, unable to defend themselves, were round
    ed up and exterminated
    In 1911, Turkey established gun control. From 1915 to 1917, 1.5 million Armenians, unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and exterminated.
    Germany established gun control in 1938 and from 1939 to 1945, a total of 13 million Jews and others who were unable to defend themselves were rounded up and exterminated.
    China established gun control in 1935. From 1948 to 1952, 20 million political dissidents, unable to defend themselves were rounded up and exterminated
    Guatemala established gun control in 1964. From 1964 to 1981, 100,000 Mayan Indians, unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and exterminated.
    Uganda established gun control in 1970. From 1971 to 1979, 300,000 Christians, unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and exterminated.
    Cambodia established gun control in 1956. From 1975 to 1977, one million educated people, unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and exterminated.
    Defenseless people rounded up and exterminated in the 20th Century because of gun control: 56 million.
    You won’t see this data on the US evening news, or hear politicians disseminating this information.
    Guns in the hands of honest citizens save lives and property and, yes, gun-control laws adversely affect only the law-abiding citizens.
    Take note my fellow Americans, before it’s too late!
    The next time someone talks in favor of gun control, please remind them of this history lesson.
    With guns, we are ‘citizens’. Without them, we are ‘subjects’.
    During WWII the Japanese decided not to invade America because they knew most Americans were ARMED!
    If you value your freedom, please spread this antigun-control message to all of your friends.
    SWITZERLAND ISSUES EVERY HOUSEHOLD A GUN!
    SWITZERLAND’S GOVERNMENT TRAINS EVERY ADULT THEY ISSUE A RIFLE.
    SWITZERLAND HAS THE LOWEST GUN RELATED CRIME RATE OF ANY CIVILIZED COUNTRY IN THE WORLD!!!
    IT’S A NO BRAINER!
    DON’T LET OUR GOVERNMENT WASTE MILLIONS OF OUR TAX DOLLARS IN AN EFFORT TO MAKE ALL LAW ABIDING CITIZENS AN EASY TARGET.

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  3. Join your local Militia every state has one you can go no line to WRAM to find and contact your local Militia.

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  4. Bailey,
    The founding fathers didn’t include the right to bear arms in the constitution so that we could protect ourselves from harm, but so that we could protect ourselves from TYRANNY! Nowhere in the constitution does it say we have the right to bear arms only for safety or for hunting. If you’re not so sure about that, try reading the constitution. While you’re at it, read some of the “Crap” (as you put it), that our founding fathers wrote while composing this great document.

    When the constitution was written the “Musket” was state of the art technology and was used by civilians and military alike. The framers of the constitution certainly understood that both military and civilian technologies would evolve and improve over time, yet they didn’t specify that the right to bear arms be restricted only to muskets! They understood that in order for our citizens to stand up to tyranny, they would need to be at least as well armed as the tyrants. Owning a military style weapon does not give one “Power” over anyone, it simply makes one equal.

    You obviously failed to do your homework before writing this article or you would know the difference between a semi-automatic weapon and an automatic weapon. You would also know that automatic weapons were banned in the 1930’s and it is stil unlawful for the average citizen to own one today.

    No theorist I’ve ever read has suggested arming every person in the country because “that’ll scare’em!” It’s a proven fact that communities with a high percentage of gun owners have less crime that communities with a low percentage of gun owners. Again, do your homework.

    Perhaps the reason that the “Lunatics” are shooting up movie theatres and schools is because they are, well, Lunatics! What about all of the violent tv shows, movies and video games they are exposed to on a daily basis? Maybe we should ban those…

    So before you start spouting your liberal, left wing crap, maybe YOU should take a second to think about the core principles that this country WAS BUILT ON: FREEDOM!! And I don’t know about you but I feel very “free” knowing that my neighbor is armed and will come to my families aid if and when he is needed!!! Keep your powder dry!

    themerryinfidel

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    • Bailey you might want to give the name of those crap papers that you are talking about cause most of the people probably dont even know of the federalist papers.

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  5. Go here to find your local Militia http://wramsite.com/

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  6. Ah, you miserable creatures! You who think that you are so great! You who judge humanity to be so small! You who wish to reform everything! Why don’t you reform yourselves? That task would be sufficient enough.”
    ? Frédéric Bastiat

    98 percent of the criminals that are in prison Identifies themselves as liberals maybe we would be better off outlawing liberalism.

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  7. I’m not convinced that the young perpetrators of the mass killings are not victims or should I say “deployments” of psych-ops to achieve the agenda of disarming civilians. After the murders en mass, the perps all seem to kill themselves. There’s no way to get in their heads to find out the true motive.

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  8. Well put Paul, Oh… Oh, sorry. That was our faonding father’s crap. You were just repeating it… ;-)

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  9. I scrolled down once I read about the Militia may be the way to go! I have to say this and am at Peace with God to do so!

    The MAIN issue with the World in past and present is the Bankers, 100%! The number of ammo is 1.4 Billion+ by DHS alone!

    https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=gates+depopulation&oq=Gates+De&gs_l=youtube.1.2.0l4.41684.54822.0.61448.14.11.3.0.0.0.573.1099.10j5-1.11.0…0.0…1ac.1.lMinuAqXq04

    Go to infowars.com, get informed and spread the word! They show proof of everything…

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  10. Didn’t read through all the comments and just have one. Tim is right, we all need 50 nuclear bombs in our basement so we have the same military capibility as the government……

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  11. I’ve been browsing online more than 3 hours nowadays, but I never discovered any fascinating article like yours. It’s lovely value enough for me. In my view, if all website owners and bloggers made good content as you probably did, the internet might be a lot more helpful than ever before.

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  12. I’m always armed. My wife is always armed. I encourage all sane responsible Americans to arm themselves and be ready for whatever is coming. I’m afraid that with all of the unrest in the world, ISIS, radical Islam, Illegals, we are going to be faced with real life and death decisions right here in the U.S.A.
    BTW, the first article mentions “automatic” weapons. Would somebody please inform all of the clowns that talk “automatic” weapons, that they have been unavailable to the general population for decades. Just because a firearm looks “scary” doesn’t make it an automatic.

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  13. I am sick of this “only for hunting” crap!
    It is a fact that Congress once called civilians to battle a navy, and we did it, with what we have, that was not supplied by the government. And we defeated them.
    Imagine us doing that with shotguns if an enemy navy does the same thing today?

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  14. that was a reply to paul’s link.

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