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Argue With Us! Your Second Amendment Rights

Point: The Right to Bear Arms—Within Reason

by Bailey O’Malia

In the wake of the Sandy Hook tragedy Americans and politicians have spent time reflecting on gun control.

We often hear that our founding fathers wrote our right to bear arms into the Constitution as a way to protect ourselves from harm; that they wanted us to have that right, even today.

But that’s not something I’m so sure about.

When the founding fathers wrote our constitution their idea of a weapon was a musket. Not an automatic weapon. The gun they had in mind would be used for safety or for hunting.

With this in mind I wonder, what the fathers of our nation would have said about civilians owning military-grade weapons that can shoot a hundred rounds in a minute?

Surely there is no need for a civilian to hold that kind of power in his hand. In fact, why should anyone have that much power over another human being? Do we really trust each other’s judgment?

I’ve been thinking about this for days and I can’t come up with one good reason that a person would need anything more than a handgun or rifle for “safety.”

So when the discussion of changing the gun laws is brought up I think, what a perfectly simple solution; ban all automatic weapons. This appeases the Democrats because they will have made steps towards gun reform, and the Republicans because they won’t be fully losing their right to bear arms. If you consider shooting an automatic weapon a fun hobby, they could still be available to rent at a gun range.

But this is a compromise. A concept politicians and Americans are unfamiliar with these days.

If you’re pro-guns at this point you’re probably saying “but it’s my right, and they’re taking away all of our rights.”

But it’s also your right to feel safe in this country. And despite the theorists who say “arm every person in the country, that’ll scare ‘em!” The lunatics that are shooting up movie theaters and schools don’t seem to place much value on their life or the lives of others.

So before you start spouting your founding fathers crap, take a second to think about the core principle that this country was supposedly built on: freedom. And I don’t know about you, but I don’t feel very “free” knowing that my neighbor could be housing an AK-47 in his garage.


CounterPoint: The Reason for the Right to Bear Arms

by Tim Young

As intelligent as I think Bailey is, she’s dead wrong here.  I do feel safer knowing that my neighbor could be housing an AK-47 in his garage.  Why?  Because I know most of my neighbors are honest, hardworking people who aren’t nutcases looking to shoot up schoolchildren.

See, what happens when these terrible tragedies occur is the media blows things out of proportion to spread their leftist views… and as much as I generally don’t yell and point fingers about how biased they are… this time, they really have showed their hand.  Somewhere in the middle of all the hype about how access to guns was the issue here, we forget what the Second Amendment was really about.

When the founding fathers wrote the Constitution and Bill of Rights, they wanted to ensure that all people were equal… equal with each other and equal with the government.  Yes, when this was all written, people only had muskets… but do you know who else only had muskets?  The government.

We had just finished overthrowing a tyrannical government in order to become a free nation, and the founders, who literally helped fight in that war, wanted the American people to have equal footing with whatever government took over, in order to prevent tyranny if necessary once again.  These guys were smart, they weren’t thinking inside the box of their time.  They were completely aware that technology would change, but they wanted Americans to be able to stand up for themselves.  How does one do that?  By having the same level of weaponry as the government!

The Constitution was written with revolution in mind, not the peace that we have internally had for about 150 years now.  I say 150 years, because we fought ourselves with our armed militias in The Civil War… we have been lucky to have had internal peace since then…  But you can’t closed-mindedly say that the Second Amendment was for limited weapons.  It just wasn’t.  It was meant to keep people on the same level as the government, so that they could fight for their rights if necessary.

And sure, if my neighbors had rocket launchers, I think I’d be scared just because they could blow up my house… But if original founders were still around, I think they’d be alright with it.


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  1. I beg to differ with Bailey. She may be a very nice person and intelligent to boot…but she is misintepreting the intent of the Founder’s. They did not say we may have the right, no the duty, to keep and bear arms until, oh, say 1825 or 1910, it is forever. Keeping with that, as the armaments of the “government” progressed so should those of the people. To be as equally armed as a tyranical government is the only way to keep that tyranical government from taking over and keeping them “in fear of the people” so they adhere to the Constitution, Bill of Rights and Declaration of Independence. I, as an American, with this God given right of self protection and defense, have been given the right to have any tool of self protection up to and including a jet fighter, tank, drone, AK, AR, sword or whatever other means I can afford and have the room to keep. I will never understand WHAT PART OF “SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED” do these people not understand? I do not believe we should have to have a permit, register or in anyway be “kept track of”. I do think background checks so the mentally ill and “wackos” do not have guns is the only restraint that should be put on firearms.

  2. Here’s a concept for you. Let’s ban murder by any means. Let’s ban assaults, robberies, rapes and home invasions. Surely something as simple as a law prohibiting these acts would make them go away. Everyone here has made great points. The problem is that they are most likely only being read by people who agree. Changing the minds of the liberals is a daunting if not impossible task. Send your thoughts to your newspapers editorial page, send them to your congressmen, senators and representatives at state and federal levels. Let them know you won’t tolerate their ineptitude. Vote in EVERY election! Gun control isn’t about Guns, it’s about Control!

  3. The “the founders only had muskets” argument is ridiculous, because criminals only had muskets as well. There has been 2 comprehensive university studies on what factors decreased gun violence and the number of people killed by guns. The findings were clear, that the only variable added to a jurisdiction which reduced gun violence and gun homicides was “concealed weapons carry permits” – not the death penalty, not long prison sentences, not ‘people control laws’ (better know as gun control laws) and absolutely not gun-free zones. Every single mass shooting in the United States since 1950, but one, has happened in a Gun-Free zone. The exception was Congresswoman Gabriel Gifford. Therefore, If you believe that a criminal (someone who would rob you at gun point, or murder another human being)is actually going to follow politician “mandated” gun control laws – you really are some kind of stupid.

  4. Arguing with a liberal or progressive is like banging your head against the wall. You will get quotes that never existed, statistics from some magical land, and much more. I think that just printing the information and let them argue it out is best. If you try to reason it out, “not gonna happen” as to the right for the citizens, Liberal dont need rights, they have government!!!

  5. Well Rob Evans since u are a Canuck you shpuld really keep out of what doesnt concern u.
    U have no rights. Most surely u have no busoness in this debate so dummy up.

  6. Bailey said, “Do we really trust each other’s judgment?”
    No, and that’s why I’ll keep my gun.

  7. The comments made by Ms. O’Malia were quite bizarre,as anyone with even a modicum of knowledge of history or guns would appreciate. In her reference to muskets, the only military or indeed CIVILIAN weapon available at that period of time was a musket! Certainly in the 2+ centuries since then,weaponry has advanced greatly. Also, the citizenry WAS the military in essence. The militia was (and still is) we the people! Again I fail to comprehend how anyone seems to think that fully automatic weapons are readily available to just anyone. Class III firearms are rigorously regulated…you just can’t go to your local gunshop and buy one! Her concluding statement was just as patently absurd…go and rent a MACHINE GUN at a gun range??? In the words of Jar Jar Binks Watcha you been thinkin!!??

  8. Progressives….Socialist……Communist all share the same goal to destroy that which they themselves do not possess. Their inability to present a coherent discussion using supported non convoluted facts will always reveal these individuals….when presented with the truth these reprobates resort to the very actions that they accuse those of us who are conservatives of…..always blaming others for their actions, name calling, issuing threats, and even violence!

  9. I’m not convinced that the young perpetrators of the mass killings are not victims or should I say “deployments” of psych-ops to achieve the agenda of disarming civilians. After the murders en mass, the perps all seem to kill themselves. There’s no way to get in their heads to find out the true motive.

  10. Well put Paul, Oh… Oh, sorry. That was our faonding father’s crap. You were just repeating it… ;-)

    • Many people think the second amendment is to ensure the right to hunt. Nothing could be farther from the truth! As a descendent from Hessian blood, and later born again descendent of Jesus blood, the second amendment IS to ensure that the People (all Americans) have the ability to defend against an evil/tyrannical government. Jesus said that if you live by the sword you will die by the sword, but even his disciples had a number of ‘military arms’. The size of the armament is not the problem, it’s the potential need to use them against the ‘biggest bully’ on the block, in the aforementioned case… the government. I am all for a constitutionally cognizant, confident and confined government. But when they seek to usurp their ‘granted’ power, the ‘Grantors’, you- me-every other voter, are held in proper conscience to un-elect them as constitutionally able. I would be wary of a little old lady with a pistol, not that she doesn’t have a right to tote one, but only the ability to use one well enough being the old lady she is. I know it takes a bit of strength to use one properly, and that with practice!, but none the less can you trust the government of the Katrina raveged towns confiscating the citizens protection? Many of those townsfolk were robbed at gun point after the fact, why? They were unarmed and the robbers knew it. Another Biblical quote from Jesus… Math.12:29 “How can any one enter the strong mans house and rob him of his property unless he first binds (or disarms) the strong man?”. Or do we so easily forget the disarming of the German people before and during the Hitler regime? Unless one is a true socialist, the public ownership of firearms has NEVER been a problem.

  11. I scrolled down once I read about the Militia may be the way to go! I have to say this and am at Peace with God to do so!

    The MAIN issue with the World in past and present is the Bankers, 100%! The number of ammo is 1.4 Billion+ by DHS alone!


    Go to infowars.com, get informed and spread the word! They show proof of everything…

  12. Didn’t read through all the comments and just have one. Tim is right, we all need 50 nuclear bombs in our basement so we have the same military capibility as the government……

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