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Argue With Us! Your Second Amendment Rights

Point: The Right to Bear Arms—Within Reason

by Bailey O’Malia

In the wake of the Sandy Hook tragedy Americans and politicians have spent time reflecting on gun control.

We often hear that our founding fathers wrote our right to bear arms into the Constitution as a way to protect ourselves from harm; that they wanted us to have that right, even today.

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But that’s not something I’m so sure about.

When the founding fathers wrote our constitution their idea of a weapon was a musket. Not an automatic weapon. The gun they had in mind would be used for safety or for hunting.

With this in mind I wonder, what the fathers of our nation would have said about civilians owning military-grade weapons that can shoot a hundred rounds in a minute?

Surely there is no need for a civilian to hold that kind of power in his hand. In fact, why should anyone have that much power over another human being? Do we really trust each other’s judgment?

I’ve been thinking about this for days and I can’t come up with one good reason that a person would need anything more than a handgun or rifle for “safety.”

So when the discussion of changing the gun laws is brought up I think, what a perfectly simple solution; ban all automatic weapons. This appeases the Democrats because they will have made steps towards gun reform, and the Republicans because they won’t be fully losing their right to bear arms. If you consider shooting an automatic weapon a fun hobby, they could still be available to rent at a gun range.

But this is a compromise. A concept politicians and Americans are unfamiliar with these days.

If you’re pro-guns at this point you’re probably saying “but it’s my right, and they’re taking away all of our rights.”

But it’s also your right to feel safe in this country. And despite the theorists who say “arm every person in the country, that’ll scare ‘em!” The lunatics that are shooting up movie theaters and schools don’t seem to place much value on their life or the lives of others.

So before you start spouting your founding fathers crap, take a second to think about the core principle that this country was supposedly built on: freedom. And I don’t know about you, but I don’t feel very “free” knowing that my neighbor could be housing an AK-47 in his garage.

 

CounterPoint: The Reason for the Right to Bear Arms

by Tim Young

As intelligent as I think Bailey is, she’s dead wrong here.  I do feel safer knowing that my neighbor could be housing an AK-47 in his garage.  Why?  Because I know most of my neighbors are honest, hardworking people who aren’t nutcases looking to shoot up schoolchildren.

See, what happens when these terrible tragedies occur is the media blows things out of proportion to spread their leftist views… and as much as I generally don’t yell and point fingers about how biased they are… this time, they really have showed their hand.  Somewhere in the middle of all the hype about how access to guns was the issue here, we forget what the Second Amendment was really about.

When the founding fathers wrote the Constitution and Bill of Rights, they wanted to ensure that all people were equal… equal with each other and equal with the government.  Yes, when this was all written, people only had muskets… but do you know who else only had muskets?  The government.

We had just finished overthrowing a tyrannical government in order to become a free nation, and the founders, who literally helped fight in that war, wanted the American people to have equal footing with whatever government took over, in order to prevent tyranny if necessary once again.  These guys were smart, they weren’t thinking inside the box of their time.  They were completely aware that technology would change, but they wanted Americans to be able to stand up for themselves.  How does one do that?  By having the same level of weaponry as the government!

The Constitution was written with revolution in mind, not the peace that we have internally had for about 150 years now.  I say 150 years, because we fought ourselves with our armed militias in The Civil War… we have been lucky to have had internal peace since then…  But you can’t closed-mindedly say that the Second Amendment was for limited weapons.  It just wasn’t.  It was meant to keep people on the same level as the government, so that they could fight for their rights if necessary.

And sure, if my neighbors had rocket launchers, I think I’d be scared just because they could blow up my house… But if original founders were still around, I think they’d be alright with it.

 

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250 comments

  1. Robert M. Anderson

    According to her “reasoning”, then, we should be able to pass laws outlawing computers, TVS, radios, and all the other technological advances that weren’t avaiable when the First Amendment was drafted. More importantly, she does not seem to understand that WE granted the government a limited set of powers; government HAS no rights. Only INDIVIDUALS have rights, and it is the primary duty of the government to PROTECT those rights. As the German playwright Freiderich Schiller wrote in his play “Joan of Arc” “Against stupidity, the Gods themselves contend in Vain”.

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  2. I don’t read the lady complaining about the guns that took Osama b. Laden out. Did she mention Fast and Furious? Or the Border guards who were killed by Obama/Holder’s game? Who and what have kept this country free from now speaking German and Japanese? In Alaska, we came close to it, but thanks to our men and women with guns, we avoided that. Why aren’t these people working as hard at giving us answers to Bengazi? Thesee issues are being swept under the rug. These people who have open minds by appointment only, are so close to brain dead. Can’t think or reason beyond their nose. Settle the standing problems before trying to cover up with something none of us have control over. Think of what these ‘progressives’ are doing to the families of the children who are the losers. Have they no pity for them? Shame. The Progressives have no mercy except for the wrong reasons. And if the gun chasers get their way (God forbid) people who rely on their guns to hunt and provide subsistence food for families year around, will be hurting. Where would their food come from? Would they send help to us? These people don’t know the words ‘help thy neighbor’.

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  3. I love and support my Second Amendment right, it’s granted to me and every other law biding citizen across America and protected by the Constitution of the United States of America….the Second Amendment allows me to own a firearm, protect my self, family, friend, community, and country if need be, and I will do just that….

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  4. Another reason to allow people to carry a concealed weapon without a permit. If that woman would have been carrying a loaded pistol she could have stopped this from happening. If you have been checked out through the data base and have no felony against you or no resent mental illness then I see no reason for you to need a permit to carry a concealed weapon. The background check that is required when you buy a pistol should be all you need to say its ok for you to carry.

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  5. I am certain that the framers of our Constitution intended for citizens to have availability to advancements in technology regarding firearms. After all they had the latest weaponry available at that time. Their foremost goal for the 2nd Amendment was for citizens to be able to protect themselves from out of control and non-responsive government. The framers were very intelligent and if they had wanted limitations on the 2nd Amendment they would have indicated that when they wrote it. Having served in the Marine Corps during Vietnam I can tell you that any weapon that is going to be considered an ASSAULT WEAPON, must have the CAPABILITY of FULLY AUTOMATIC FIRE. It doesn’t matter what other features it has, if you can’t fire it FULLY AUTOMATIC it IS NOT AN ASSAULT WEAPON. And fully automatic weapons have been illegal for around 80 years except under special conditions and only with a permit. Our M14s had only 20 round clips and even when we joined two (in a way I won’t mention) did we have the capability of more than 20 rounds and even then it still required a clip changing procedure between the two joined clips. I believe we now have an out of control and non-responsive government led by a man who isn’t even eligible to hold the office he currently has. Now more than at any other time after the war between the states the citizens truly do need their firearms. And that brings up one more point, WE MUST NEVER ALLOW A PERCEPTION OF NEED TO BE A PREREQUISITE TO ANY OF OUR RIGHTS!!!!

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  6. I want whatever the military has.

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  8. Standard arms for infantryman of the British Military from 1722 – 1838 was the .75 cal smooth bore flintlock musket which was reliably accurate up to a distance of 75 meters.

    Most militiamen of the Continental army used the same musket as the British infantryman, but many used their own personal Rifles which were reliably accurate up to 300 meters.

    So during the time our founding fathers wrote the 2nd amendment many of the citizens of this fledgling nation were equipped with better more advanced weapons than their military.

    The goal of our forefathers was to guarantee a well armed and equipped populace that could if necessary rise up and defend itself from an oppressive government. (hmm that’s kinda like what they just did)

    A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.

    Nothing there about having to own a gun or that if you do it is for hunting or that it is to protect yourself from some nutjob. The purpose of ensuring that the people are well armed is to ensure the security of a free state.

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  9. well you may be right about the founding fathers and the style of weapons that were at that time, all being flinters. Now 200 years in future, we need to keep up with the powers that could take away all our rights from the constitution. If you say we cant have semi-automatic weapons to defend ourselves, then we will pry them from our enemies cold dead hands. So once again we will have semi-automatic weapons.

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  10. Name me only one:
    Criminal who will register his guns
    Bad guy who will ask for a back ground check of another bad guy so he can sell him a gun
    Gang banger who will report his gun stolen or lost
    Terrorist who will subject themselves to a background check to buy a gun
    Weapon that jumped up, loaded it’s self and ran around shooting
    Politician who dosen’t know 98% of the people are law abiding, 2% are criminals and politicians

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  11. Folks,

    It’s VERY SIMPLE really, “A Well Regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a Free State, the RIGHT of the People to KEEP (Own) and BEAR (Carry on your person, in a manner of YOUR CHOOSING) Arms (NOTE: NO distinction is made by the Founders, as to type, caliber, size, mode of operation, or ammo capacity, therefore WHAT RIGHT does BIG GOV’T have to do so??) SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED (Impeded, Interfered With, made subject to LICENSE, PERMIT,ETC!!) My question to ALL of these LIBERAL GUN CONTROL @$$HOLES is this…WHAT PART OF “SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED” do y’all NOT UNDERSTAND???? I believe the Founders made it CRYSTAL CLEAR, that We the People have the INALIENABLE RIGHT to OWN and CARRY ARMS OF OUR CHOOSING, UPON OUR PERSONS IN WHATEVER MANNER THAT WE AS SOVEREIGN INHABITANTS OF THIS LAND, SEE FIT!!! ALL of these PERMITS, LICENSES, FEES, ETC are nothing more than INFRINGEMENTS, and INCOME PRODUCING SCAMS perpetrated by the proponents of BIG GOV”T, who wish to WEAKEN WE THE PEOPLE

    DONT FALL FOR IT!! STAND YOUR GROUND!! CALL ON YOUR LOCAL SHERIFF, MAKE SURE THAT HE IS A MEMBER OF THE CONSTITUTIONAL SHERIFFS AND POLICE OFFICERS ASS’N (www.cspoa.org) MAKE SURE THAT THERE IS A COUNTY CONSTITUTIONAL COMMITTEE IN YOUR COUNTY, AND HELP NEIGHBORING COUNTIES TO ORGANIZE THEM AS WELL.

    DO YOU PART FOLKS!! I believe Edmund Burke said it best..”ALL THAT IS NECESARRY FOR EVIL TO TRIUMPH..IS FOR GOOS MEN (AND WOMEN) TO DO NOTHING!!

    DON’T GET CAUGHT IN HE TRAP OF INACTIVITY!!

    To do NOTHING at this most CRITICAL point in time, IS TANTAMOUNT TO TREASON!!

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  12. D.R.Willie Lanham

    Very well said, WarFighter, there are way too many citizens that do not have a clue about God given rights to self preservation and the right to protect oneself and family, whether their blood or neighbors. Sheeples are so rapped up in their own little world that they believe anything their government tells them. Very few have spent any time researching our heritage or spent any time in the military to know what it feels like to honor the country and believe in the Constitution. Our schools have even stopped teaching our children about our history.
    When the government stopped the draft and went to all volunteer military, I felt so betrayed and soon realized how much it was going to change this country and how the citizens looked toward the 2nd Amendment and how the government might have a charge @ trying to disarm the citizenry.
    Well, now we all know. But, the citizens have a chance to stop all the dishonesty and corruption, if they stand up and study whats going on and VOTE, we have to get our Representatives in Washington that really want to stop this and stand behind them and fight with all our might. Otherwise, this whole country will resemble Chicago, or Detroit.

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  13. To keep government in check and be able take care of my security here…

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  14. This country is getting out of control!!! It has been for some time now. Americans have the right to bear arms. Period…

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